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Subjectivity is nonsense. Neither subjectivity nor objectivity exists in nature. That’s the mind-contained-in-the-brain belief of some psychiatrists and other scientists. The subject is an object is a subject. In a cybernetic system, you go around in a circle, and subject and object have no reality. The only way to isolate subject and object is to cut off the feedback and destroy the system. It’s a false dichotomy. John Lily, Omni Interview. 1983.